Hi Rosie,

I'm going to try to help you out with these problems by first starting with a question for you. You mentioned that you were still getting #% problems wrong in LR. Was that from taking practice tests? Or was it from missing the questions in that chapter? Or was it more a general sense of unease you had with the concepts? The more you can tell me about the problems that you are having, the more accurate advice I can give you So, just let me know anything you think would be useful, and and then I'll add more to this response.

Ok, those questions aside, #% problems are going to appear at least a few times on your test, so you are right to want to make sure you have these ideas locked down. And, they can be among the most difficult type of problems, so the fact that they are giving you some trouble isn't unusual. Lots of people have difficulty with these questions!

The first tip I always give about these questions is:

The people who make the test know that these problems bother a lot of people, so one of their tricks is to toss in numerical or percentage info, but not have it be what the problem is really about. so, make sure that if they do throw in some number or percentage info, that it's not a red herring and that it is central to the problem.

Next, the advice I give in the LRB about #% problems is fairly general on the whole, and that is intentional. There are so many different scenarios that can occur that getting too specific would mean that the advice wouldn't apply in many situations. But, %# questions tend to revolve around a few basic errors:

* confusing a number with a percentage;

* confusing a percentage with a number;

* failing to tell you what happened with the total.

So, the second piece of advice is:

Many student assume that they know what was said without making sure of it, and the makers of the LSAT know that will occur, and create wrong answers that then look good. So, make sure you know what was talked about

Numbers and percentage problems on the LSAT often hinge on the interplay between three elements: total, a number within the total, and percentage within the total. If you are given just a percentage, that does not prove anything about the number. If you are given just a number, that does not tell you anything about the percentage. But if you are given two out of those three elements, then you can deduce the third. For example, if you are given the percentage and the total, you can determine the number.

So, whereas in point #2 above I advised making sure you know exactly what was said about each number, percentage, or total, here my advice is to look on the other side as well:

For example, if you have just a number and the total, but nothing on the percentage, there's a reasonable chance that the answer will revolve around that percentage idea. More on this shortly.

If you are given static, fixed numbers (for example, you have 100 marbles, and 40 of them are blue) then it's easy to figure out what's going on (40% of them are blue; 60% of them are not blue). The LSAT doesn't want to make your life easy, and so often one or more of the numbers they give you is rising or falling. That means the next rule is very important:

When these numbers and percentages begin rising or falling, change is occurring and it becomes trickier to draw solid conclusions. This is especially the case because of the next tip:

As my colleague Adam Tyson wrote: "A classic numbers and percentages flaw is that the authors attempt to use a percentage to prove a number or a number to prove a percentage, without providing a crucial piece of information. In order to prove a percentage, you need to have a total and a subtotal - that is, if I know I have 100 marbles and 40 of them are green, I can prove that 40% are green and that 60% are not green. What if I only say that later I get more green marbles - can I prove that my percentage increased? No, not without knowing the new total number of marbles. Maybe I got ten more green marbles, but I also got 90 more that were not green, bringing my total marbles to 200, and reducing the green percentage to 25% (50 out of 200)."

In this tip, I specifically point out that the arguments often have errors. This means that the presence of an argument is key, and as we know from earlier chapters, to have an argument you need a conclusion. So:

The presence of an argument often tells you what direction you might be going in, which also means that the question type can help tell you what's happening. If you have a Must Be True question, often you've read a Fact Set, and the correct answer supplies a missing piece of info. But if you have a Strengthen or Weaken question, you've most probably read something with a flaw in it, and it's up to you to have identified that flaw.

To help highlight this idea, I'll use an example one of my colleagues cited recently:

That brings us to our last point for now:

The LSAT isn't a math test, and so you never really have to compute any of these problems, or find an actual mathematical solution. What you do have to do, however, is understand the range of possibilities under the scenario they describe. such as with the Gainsville example above, I don't need to know the exact number of residents, just that the total number of residents has an effect on how we view the argument. So, don't worry about doing real math, and instead worry about how the numbers work together

Ok, those tips hopefully are helpful, and if you are looking to work on more #% problems, we do offer LSAT Logical Reasoning Training Type books that contain sections specifically devoted to these types of problems (and many others). For more info on those books, check out:

PowerScore's LSAT Logical Reasoning: Question Type Training

PowerScore's LSAT Logical Reasoning: Question Type Training Volume 2

Alright, that's it for now. Please let me know if that helps!

I'm going to try to help you out with these problems by first starting with a question for you. You mentioned that you were still getting #% problems wrong in LR. Was that from taking practice tests? Or was it from missing the questions in that chapter? Or was it more a general sense of unease you had with the concepts? The more you can tell me about the problems that you are having, the more accurate advice I can give you So, just let me know anything you think would be useful, and and then I'll add more to this response.

Ok, those questions aside, #% problems are going to appear at least a few times on your test, so you are right to want to make sure you have these ideas locked down. And, they can be among the most difficult type of problems, so the fact that they are giving you some trouble isn't unusual. Lots of people have difficulty with these questions!

The first tip I always give about these questions is:

**1. Make sure that the #s and %s that are used in the problem are the focus of the problem.**The people who make the test know that these problems bother a lot of people, so one of their tricks is to toss in numerical or percentage info, but not have it be what the problem is really about. so, make sure that if they do throw in some number or percentage info, that it's not a red herring and that it is central to the problem.

Next, the advice I give in the LRB about #% problems is fairly general on the whole, and that is intentional. There are so many different scenarios that can occur that getting too specific would mean that the advice wouldn't apply in many situations. But, %# questions tend to revolve around a few basic errors:

* confusing a number with a percentage;

* confusing a percentage with a number;

* failing to tell you what happened with the total.

So, the second piece of advice is:

**2. Identify the exact number or percentage that is being discussed. And if an overall total is given, make note of it as well.**Many student assume that they know what was said without making sure of it, and the makers of the LSAT know that will occur, and create wrong answers that then look good. So, make sure you know what was talked about

*in detail*.Numbers and percentage problems on the LSAT often hinge on the interplay between three elements: total, a number within the total, and percentage within the total. If you are given just a percentage, that does not prove anything about the number. If you are given just a number, that does not tell you anything about the percentage. But if you are given two out of those three elements, then you can deduce the third. For example, if you are given the percentage and the total, you can determine the number.

So, whereas in point #2 above I advised making sure you know exactly what was said about each number, percentage, or total, here my advice is to look on the other side as well:

**3. Look for what's missing. The LSAT often gives you information on 1 or 2 elements, but leaves other parts out. The questions often hinge on what's been left out, so make sure you know what it was.**For example, if you have just a number and the total, but nothing on the percentage, there's a reasonable chance that the answer will revolve around that percentage idea. More on this shortly.

If you are given static, fixed numbers (for example, you have 100 marbles, and 40 of them are blue) then it's easy to figure out what's going on (40% of them are blue; 60% of them are not blue). The LSAT doesn't want to make your life easy, and so often one or more of the numbers they give you is rising or falling. That means the next rule is very important:

**4. Watch for movement in any number, percentage, or total, and make note of whether it is rising or falling.**When these numbers and percentages begin rising or falling, change is occurring and it becomes trickier to draw solid conclusions. This is especially the case because of the next tip:

**5. Often, #% arguments contain an error of reasoning. So, you are frequently looking at conclusions that are unsupported.**As my colleague Adam Tyson wrote: "A classic numbers and percentages flaw is that the authors attempt to use a percentage to prove a number or a number to prove a percentage, without providing a crucial piece of information. In order to prove a percentage, you need to have a total and a subtotal - that is, if I know I have 100 marbles and 40 of them are green, I can prove that 40% are green and that 60% are not green. What if I only say that later I get more green marbles - can I prove that my percentage increased? No, not without knowing the new total number of marbles. Maybe I got ten more green marbles, but I also got 90 more that were not green, bringing my total marbles to 200, and reducing the green percentage to 25% (50 out of 200)."

In this tip, I specifically point out that the arguments often have errors. This means that the presence of an argument is key, and as we know from earlier chapters, to have an argument you need a conclusion. So:

**6. If you have a conclusion, that's when you see an error that is usually based on confusing the number and percentage idea. If there's no conclusion (meaning you are looking at a Fact Set), then often a piece of information is missing and you have to determine what that is.**The presence of an argument often tells you what direction you might be going in, which also means that the question type can help tell you what's happening. If you have a Must Be True question, often you've read a Fact Set, and the correct answer supplies a missing piece of info. But if you have a Strengthen or Weaken question, you've most probably read something with a flaw in it, and it's up to you to have identified that flaw.

To help highlight this idea, I'll use an example one of my colleagues cited recently:

- Let's say I told you there are more violent crimes in Gainsville this year than ever before, and concluded that the average resident in Gainsville is now more likely than ever to fall victim to a violent crime. What do you think of this argument?

Hopefully, you can see this as a terrible argument: clearly, we don't know how the Gainsville population has changed over time. The conclusion is about likelihood (i.e. a percentage idea), whereas the premise describes an increase (a numerical idea). If the total population of Gainsville has tripled over the years, an increase in the total number of crimes wouldn't necessarily mean that the average person is more likely to become a victim. In fact, the crime rate - usually measured by the number of crimes per 100,000 people - could easily have gone down!

So, to weaken the argument, we can propose that the Gainsville's total population has drastically increased over the years. And, inversely, to strengthen the argument we can say that its population has decreased: more crime, spread across fewer people, would guarantee that the crime rate is now higher, and that your risk of being a victim has increased. If they ask you to identify an assumption upon which the argument depends, it would be that Gainsville's population has not substantially increased over the years. (Another assumption would be that we haven't changed the definition of what constitutes a "violent crime".) Does that make sense?

That brings us to our last point for now:

**7. You don't have to do real math.**The LSAT isn't a math test, and so you never really have to compute any of these problems, or find an actual mathematical solution. What you do have to do, however, is understand the range of possibilities under the scenario they describe. such as with the Gainsville example above, I don't need to know the exact number of residents, just that the total number of residents has an effect on how we view the argument. So, don't worry about doing real math, and instead worry about how the numbers work together

*in general*.Ok, those tips hopefully are helpful, and if you are looking to work on more #% problems, we do offer LSAT Logical Reasoning Training Type books that contain sections specifically devoted to these types of problems (and many others). For more info on those books, check out:

PowerScore's LSAT Logical Reasoning: Question Type Training

PowerScore's LSAT Logical Reasoning: Question Type Training Volume 2

Alright, that's it for now. Please let me know if that helps!

Dave Killoran

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Follow me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/DaveKilloran

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