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 nutcracker
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#43231
Is it just me, or is this game actually time-consuming? This is not quite like the other circular linearity games I've seen so far, and I'm at a loss how to attack the questions efficiently, especially question #23. For that one I had to make four diagrams and I doubt it's a good way to solve a question. Any better idea would be appreciated. Thank you!
 James Finch
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Hi Nutcracker,

Absolutely! In fact, the fourth game in a section is usually (but not always) the most difficult/time consuming. One of the indicators of a game being a timesink is the ratio of global questions (the answer will always be true according to the overall rules of the game) versus local questions (questions that add a rule that only affects that question): the greater the proportion of local questions, the likelier the initial setup is to be very incomplete and highly dependent upon where a certain variable slots in. In some cases, this will yield a limited number of templates, between 2-4, depending on the location of one or two variables. But in other games, like this one, solving out all the possibilities would take too much time, and the global rules don't yield themselves to templates.

Here, I recommend using the information gained from answering prior questions to help eliminate loser answer choices and test only the remaining contenders. Question #23 recalls information that would have been gained by correctly answering questions #19 and #21: #19 tells us that H-G-O cannot work with I and K across the table from one another, and if you made a complete template for #19, could see that H would have no place to go if K were put across the table from I and O was next to G, helping us zero in on testing answer choice (B). Question #21 tells us that M can work next to O and have K across the table from I, which allows us to eliminate answer choice (D). So gradually accumulating information about a game while answering the questions is crucial in efficiently answering all of the questions. At times, this can even mean skipping a question, which will then be answered by work done on a later question.

Hope this helps!
 lsatdaily
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#61388
Hello,

Can someone possibly post 4 templates/ set ups?

Thank you so much in advance!
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 Stephanie Turaj
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Hi lsatdaily,

Thanks for your question! Generally speaking, we need a bit more input from you before we delve into a discussion of a particular logic game. Ultimately, it won't be us who are taking the test; it's you! :-) Our goal is to help you cultivate the analytical ability to approach these games on your own, which is why you need to help us help you first.

Here's what I'd like you to do:

1. Describe your approach to the setup. Were you able to determine what type of game it is? What the variable sets are?

2. Were you able to diagram any of the rules, or make any inferences?

I am confident that you will get more out of our help if we start with an understanding of how you approached the game and what you found difficult about it. :)

Thanks!
 melissa7t
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#61709
Hi, I'm having trouble setting up this game. I have tried diagraming a circular table but I don't feel like I am doing it correctly nor does it seem to work with question #18.
 Robert Carroll
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#61724
Melissa,

My diagram would be something like this:
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This works because none of the seating positions have numbers, so if F and G are directly across from each other, you can imagine moving around the table yourself until F's seat is at the top (12 o'clock). G's seat will then be at the bottom, and the rest of the diagram should be fairly intuitive from there.

Robert Carroll
 angelsfan0055
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Would there be able to a diagram for this game? I basically want to make sure I understood the final rule correctly.
I put O to the left of I (OI) because that's what it seemed to indicate thinking about clockwise.
is this correct? I got 4/7 on this one and it took me a bit to figure out especially No. 23.
 Adam Tyson
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Check out Robert's diagram in this thread, angelsfan0055. Your approach to the OI rule is good, but you have to remember that as you move around the table, "clockwise" might not mean "to the right." Depending on where O is, I might appear to it's left (from our perspective) or "above" O, or "below" it. Think of O and I as two people facing the table, and I will always be immediately to O's left.

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