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 mN2mmvf
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"sheds light" ;)

If we assume that (C) is talking about ocean water and snow-covered land, I agree that it would have to be true that snow-covered land would be heated less than non-snow-covered land given the same sun. And I agree that that's compatible with (C): water and snow-covered land could still heat the atmosphere, just by not as much as water and non-snow-covered land would.

But I still don't see how (C) would *strengthen* that reasoning. I read the argument (and your explanation) as being about what warms the atmosphere *more or less* than normal conditions. We know that everything warms the atmosphere: sun being reflected on land, ocean, ice, and snow; AND sun being absorbed by land, ocean, ice, and snow. The mere fact that the sun reaches earth warms the atmosphere; if there were no sun, it would not be warmed; even if Earth were all ice, the atmosphere would still be warmed more than if there were no sun at all. The argument is saying that the more reflection there is, the less warming there will be. Showing that "the less reflection (=more absorption) there is, the more warming there will be" would strengthen the argument, because it would show that relationship goes dynamically in both directions.

But (C) doesn't say that "the less reflection (=more absorption) there is, the more warming there will be." It simply repeated the premise: everything warms the atmosphere. No information about more or less. Thus no strengthening effect, imo.

Anyway, I agree that (C) is the best of bad answers if you give it as much help as I do many of my wrong answers!
 James Finch
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Hi MN,

We should read (C) to mean that, rather than just the land and ocean water temperatures rising more due to increased absorption of sunlight than ice and snow, in turn the warmer land and oceans heat up the atmosphere. This is not actually stated in the stimulus, although I think most test takers would assume it on first reading, so it isn't a mere restatement of one of the premises. And it clearly strengthens the conclusion directly, by making the opposite cause have the opposite effect.

Hope this clears things up!
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Now I get it, this strengthen with CE belongs to second type, Cause doesn't occur then Effect doesn't occur strengthen CE type.
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Jonathan Evans wrote: Answer Choice (C) addresses this gap by stating that this non-snow/ice covered land in fact exacerbate a warming atmosphere, giving strong new support for the claim that "The more surface covered by snow and ice, the cooler the atmosphere will become" because clearly with less surface covered by snow and ice, you will not only experience less cooling from less snow/ice but also more warming from the rest of the land/ocean area.
Like the poster above has said, does this mean that the answer (E) describes sort of the opposite of the conclusion that 'the greater the area of Earth's surface that is covered with snow and ice, the cooler, on average, the global atmosphere is likely to become'? The stimulus is more of a correlation but a causation, but the answer is similar to how questions with causal statements are strengthened by showing the absence of the cause with the absence of the effect.
 ntlsat
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Thanks in advance for all of your help on this. I've looked through the previous posts discussing answer choice (D) -- while, for example, I can see why answer choice (C) is correct, I'm unable to articulate why (D) is incorrect.

For me, answer choice (D) strengthened the argument as a "defender". In stating that the atmosphere derives most if its heat from the passage of sunlight through it, (D) rules out the possibility of the atmosphere being heated by, say, the earth's core or by heat released by trees (this last example is a made-up one, obviously, but you get the idea). If the atmosphere could be heated by these alternative sources, then the amount of snow (and the amount of sunlight reflected) could only have a negligible effect on the temperature of the atmosphere. Sure, it could cool the atmosphere a bit, but if the atmosphere does not derive most of its heat from sunlight coming through the atmosphere, then the global atmosphere won't necessarily become cooler if there's more snow covering Earth's surface.

In a way, I feel like (C) is just a more "specific" version of answer choice (D), which I think is why I'm having trouble definitively ruling out (D).
 Adam Tyson
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The way I read answer D, ntlsat, it could be a weaken rather than a strengthen answer. Consider this - sunlight that is reflected by snow and ice passes through the atmosphere twice (once on the way down to the surface, then again going back up due to being reflected). This would suggest that reflecting sunlight should warm, rather than cool, the atmosphere! At a minimum, snow and ice don't prevent sunlight from passing through the atmosphere, so this answer does nothing to add weight to the claim that snow and ice cool the atmosphere.
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Hi PowerScore!

I was wondering if you could look through my reasoning for this question and tell me if it makes sense:

- more sunlight reflects into space, cooler atmosphere becomes
- snow/ice reflect more than ocean/land
- CONCLUSION: more snow/ice = cooler atmosphere
- Strengthen
A: This doesn't really have an affect on the conclusion that more snow/ice results in cooler temperatures.
B: This weakens the argument by providing an alternate cause.
C: This shows that without the cause, there is no effect, thereby strengthening the argument.
D: This answer choice weakens the argument by showing that the atmosphere gets warmer, not cooler.
E: This is irrelevant to the conclusion about a cooler global atmosphere.

I'm just not sure if I have the correct reasoning for these answer choices.

Thanks!
Caroline
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Looks good, Caroline!
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 April30Gang
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Lawd I need help on this question lol. I've read the explanations but it's not clicking.

The more sunlight reflected back into space, the cooler the atmosphere gets.

The author concludes that the greater the earth's surface area is covered snow and ice, the cooler the temperature will be.
Because,
Snow and ice reflect more sunlight into space than ocean water or land without snow cover.

What I got from this is that as long as the surface is covered in snow and or ice, sunlight will be reflected back into space and the atmosphere will cool.

Like some students here, D made the most sense in a way that by stating majority of the atmosphere's heat is due to the passage of sunlight through it, s the opposite-sunlight reflection- becomes more plausible in accounting for earth's cooling.

Ocean water and land heated b sunlight warm the atmosphere.

My best defense for this is that because ocean water do not contain ice or snow cover (supported by the stimulus), the necessary requirement-reflection of sunlight-to ensure the cooling effect is dead.
The second part:
Land heated by sunlight warms the atmosphere. While I'm no scientist, what is stopping the sunlight from reflecting heat?

I guess in the mind both phenomenon can co-exist: a land heated by sunlight and the land reflecting it into space.

My takeaway from D is that the existence of the opposite phenomenon isn't a strengthener. I tend to confuse that with "no cause, no effect" type of strengthener.

Help lol
 Rachael Wilkenfeld
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Hi April,

It looks like you might be confusing conditional and causal reasoning a bit. You use terms like "necessary" in your explanation of your thoughts, but this isn't conditional. We want to make sure we differentiate between conditional and causal so that we don't look for the wrong sort of support.

The causal relationship here is that sunlight reflecting CAUSES the global atmosphere cooling. We want to strengthen that relationship. We can do that either by showing the when the cause occurs, the effect occurs, showing when the cause does not occur, the effect does not occur, eliminating alternate causes, or supporting the data. Our stimulus tells us that snow and ice have more sunlight reflecting than water, so the more snow/ice covering the globe, the cooler the global atmosphere will be.

We then are looking for an answer choice that shows sunlight reflecting/increase in snow/ice causing cooler global atmosphere OR something that shows less sunlight reflecting, less cool atmosphere. That's what answer choice (C) does. The water is not reflecting the sunlight, its absorbing it. We aren't seeing the cooling, we are seeing the warming of the global atmosphere. Therefore, we can see that we have no cause (no reflecting), no effect (no cooling). This strengthens the causal relationship.

Hope that helps!

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