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LGB 2016 guitarist's demo cd. songs and types (pg236)

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I'm having trouble understanding ONE RULE in this game and without understanding this rule, I cannot move forward with the game. PLEASE HELP!

THE RULE: "each rock classic is immediately preceded on the CD by a new composition"
to me the rule is diagram : RN
in the book this is diagram R--->NR

when it says immediately, it means the two letters together inside a box
preceded means RN (r immediately before n)
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Careful there, lawana! You've mixed up "is preceded by" and "precedes". The rule here is saying that every R we put in the sequence is immediately preceded by an N, which means there is an N immediately before the R. Your interpretation would be correct if the rule was "each rock classic immediately precedes (comes right before) a new composition on the CD".

If all the Rs are immediately preceded by Ns, then every R has an N just before it. The N precedes the R; the R is preceded by the N.

Now, here's an interesting inference that could confuse some folks: this rule does also mean that almost every R must also have an N immediately after it, because if it had an R after it then that second R would not have an N immediately before it! However, there is an exception to that inference, and that is that if an R was last there would be no problem, no need for an N to follow it. But can we put an R first? No way, because every R MUST have an N right before it! So there's a key inference in this game, that an N must go first - and that inference is tested on at least two questions.

Take another look at that rule, and you'll see that our explanation does match the language of that rule. Let us know if you need further help with it!
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I'm on the same game:)

I got tripped up on #12 p 237.
When a question includes "consecutive", then gives ordinal answer choices (e.g., A and B), does this always mean ABA or BAB instead of A then B?

Also, this is my first week with this book or any LG's practice. I am finishing each game with the correct answers in no less than 11min (sometimes 15min). The Not Laws are what seem to slow me down the most. Should I shoot for 3 games and continue with the Not Laws, or seek a workaround?

Thank you, great book!!!
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Hey Sahey,

Great questions!

The answer to your first question is yes, but to clarify consecutive means either A then B or B then A, which is what I know you mean; I just wanted to make that explicit.

Excellent work getting good speed and accuracy!

As discussed in the book (c.f. p 38 & seq.) Not Laws™ are sometimes essential and sometimes facultative; in other words, you should experiment with doing games sometimes with more Not Laws, sometimes with fewer. Find the circumstances that dictate when they are helpful and when less so. For instance, on page 38 as noted Dave indicates that given that either H or J must be third, Not Laws for additional items there might be redundant.

In addition, sometimes given elaborate sequencing situations, the sequencing chart itself obviates the need for Not Laws somewhat, as long as you remain clear on what cannot occupy certain places or the earliest or latest some items can go.

For instance, in the game you ask about in this question, I chose to Hurdle the Uncertainty™ (p 288 & seq. in the book) on the first three slots, like this:

(T-W; Y)
— — —
1 2 3

because I find that allows me to visualize the relationship well without cluttering up my diagram.

Remember that almost every game and topic presented in the book offers multiple opportunities to learn and perfect your approach. Focus on maintaining perfect accuracy while seeking opportunities to increase your speed. Set goals for yourself to make incremental improvements, and do not be afraid to revisit subjects you've already covered. Learning opportunities abound.

Thank you for the question, and please follow up here or elsewhere on the forum with further questions!
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Hi Jonathan,
Thank you for answering both of my questions.
Perfecting my approach is a fantastic reminder since it will be me sweating the test this September!