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September 2017 LSAT - Accommodated Test Takers Discussion

Jon Denning
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Students taking the LSAT with accommodations may encounter a test different from the standard US/Canada LSAT, so we have created this thread to minimize confusion as everyone gets together to talk about their test content.

Below, let us know more about your accommodated test, including questions and topics that you remember, section order, and overall impressions (difficulty, uniqueness/familiarity, odd elements, etc). With that information we will begin listing which LG/RC/LR questions were real and which were known to be experimental (for more information on determining the Experimental section, please read: The Experimental Section Explained).

When you post, please indicate when and where you took the LSAT, and then follow the posting guidelines (and other considerations) provided below!

This information can help you determine whether to keep or cancel your score (although these days you rarely should cancel since only your highest score matters). For more assistance on making that decision, please visit: The Ultimate LSAT Scoring Guide: Should You Keep or Cancel?

Per LSAC policies, you are allowed to discuss LSAT question topics and difficulty in general. For example, this means you can identify a game by name and discuss whether you thought it was difficult. You cannot talk about specific answer choices, however. So, "The Water Tubes game was difficult for me" is fine; "the answer to the first three questions was A in that game" is not acceptable.

Note: If you are considering cancelling based on the details provided here, give this thread a day or two so that we can make sure all of the information is accurate.


North American LSAT Information

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wait - students taking the LSAT with accommodations have a different exam...? i was entirely unaware of this. how is that possible when we're curved along with the standard test takers? i have time and a half, is there anyway to determine that this necessarily indicates a different exam? i wouldn't be surprised if LSACmakes this version more difficult. now i'm concerned. can someone shed some more light on this please? thank you! (and good luck to everyone taking it this Saturday!)
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You shouldn't worry..... they don't purposely make the test more difficult for the people taking accommodations.

If you increase the difficulty to account for the extra time, then you run the risk of not being able to finish on time. Some of the difficult questions will take more than average time.
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reg4315 wrote:wait - students taking the LSAT with accommodations have a different exam...? i was entirely unaware of this. how is that possible when we're curved along with the standard test takers? i have time and a half, is there anyway to determine that this necessarily indicates a different exam? i wouldn't be surprised if LSACmakes this version more difficult. now i'm concerned. can someone shed some more light on this please? thank you! (and good luck to everyone taking it this Saturday!)


Late Bloomer is right—there is no cause for worry here! If your exam is a different one, then you won't be curved with the other test takers who took the Saturday administration. Your LSAT will have a separate scoring scale that is created specifically for your test. Each LSAT has its own scoring scale, which allows the test makers to create exams that produce roughly identical results for each test taker. This article might help explain how that works: The LSAT Scoring Scale Explained.

Bottom line is that each LSAT is designed to produce similar scores, so if your test is innately harder, then your scale will be looser. If your test is innately easier, then the scale will be tighter. That way the results come out about the same each time.

So, don't worry about it and go in and give it your best shot!
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Does everyone who has accommodations take the same test? I'm not taking until Wednesday because my test center doesn't do accommodations the same day as the normal test.
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rmm77 wrote:Does everyone who has accommodations take the same test? I'm not taking until Wednesday because my test center doesn't do accommodations the same day as the normal test.


No, they can be different versions. It used to be that accommodated test takers always had a different exam, but in recent years they've started giving the same exam to accommodated test takers that was given on the regular Saturday administration (or Monday, if it was the June LSAT). But, it seems that the farther out the accommodated test is from the initial administration, the less likely it is that the exams will be the same. So, it's very possible your exam will be the same as the one yesterday, but it could be different.

I hope that helps. Thanks!
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Some info about the Sabbath Observer LSAT given today (Monday, 9/18):

I had LG LR RC RC LR, with the second RC as the experimental section.

First RC section sounds easier, and reportedly had passages about chaos/complexity theory, aesthetics and sports (comparative), women's rights in revolutionary France, and common law/international law indigenous rights in Belize.

The second section was, according to many, pretty brutal. Early reports note passages about gas giants, John Stuart Mill and his wife (about women's rights), a comparative on compliance with international law, and another that's as-yet unconfirmed.

In LG there apparently was a Circular game as the section standout.

And with that it seems clear to me (JD) that this was the February 2014 LSAT! Here was our post-test analysis of that exam: http://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/bid/335 ... t-Analysis

I'll update this if/when I learn more :)
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Hey y'all - just wanted to share my September 2017 LSAT Accommodated Test experience from this morning/afternoon:

I took the test in Texas today with time and 1/2. There were only two other test takers in the room with me, along with the proctor, which I guess you could say was a little added bonus.

From what I've read on the other forum posts, it seems that we had the same test as those who took it on Saturday the 16th. My specific tests sections went LR-LG-LR-LR-RC.

I thought the first LR section was not too bad, just a couple tough questions scattered throughout the section - 25 questions total. As everyone else has already shared, I also found the LG section to be pretty easy - 23 questions total. I thought the second LR section (third overall section of my test) was easier than the first - 26 questions total. After the break, I returned to my test for a third LR section, which I thought was the toughest out of the three - again, 26 questions total. Finally, I arrived at the RC section to close out the multiple choice portion of the test - 27 questions total. Again, just as everyone else has already shared, I found this section to be pretty challenging.

Looking back at the September 16th, 2017 LSAT forum post, if I am recalling correctly, my second LR section was the experimental one - those question topics seem to match up. Unfortunately, I am unable to recall any additional question topics at this time, I guess my brain is just too worn out.

Overall, I found the test to be just about what I was expecting - some parts not too bad at all, some parts (RC, specifically) pretty difficult. I was wondering if anyone has any input on what the curve of the test might be. I know everything is out of my control now, but I cannot help myself but worry a little bit about how I may have scored overall, seeing that I found the RC section to be of upper-level difficulty. With LG being my strongest section, I am hoping that helps me out a lot, and that I did well enough on the LR sections to score in the range that I am aiming for.

Anyways, now that the test is out of the way, we can only wait until the scores come out in a couple of weeks and then wait a little longer for December. Congrats to everyone who finished up this past weekend and best of luck to those who are taking it later this week! Thanks again PowerScore for all y'all's help throughout this process - couldn't have done it without y'all!
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Hi m_barale - thanks a ton for the update! Frankly I'm a little shocked that they'd administer the same test up to two days after the real thing, but so it goes. Sounds like a solid performance on your end—people who remember as much as you seem to be are typically in good shape!—so now we wait! Congrats on being through it and keep us posted on how it turns out!
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Jon Denning wrote:Some info about the Sabbath Observer LSAT given today (Monday, 9/18):

I had LG LR RC RC LR, with the second RC as the experimental section.

First RC section sounds easier, and reportedly had passages about chaos/complexity theory, aesthetics and sports (comparative), women's rights in revolutionary France, and common law/international law indigenous rights in Belize.

The second section was, according to many, pretty brutal. Early reports note passages about gas giants, John Stuart Mill and his wife (about women's rights), a comparative on compliance with international law, and another that's as-yet unconfirmed.

In LG there apparently was a Circular game as the section standout.

And with that it seems clear to me (JD) that this was the February 2014 LSAT! Here was our post-test analysis of that exam: http://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/bid/335 ... t-Analysis

I'll update this if/when I learn more :)



Wait, JD, are you saying that some accommodated test takers that took the Sept 2017 exam had the same exam that they administered Feb 2014? Is this typical?